Pope: ‘The People Are Sovereign’

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Anybody can be wrong, but nobody has to be a hypocrite.

Pope Francis I, asked which American presidential candidate he favored, dodged all around the issue. Well, he had to, didn’t he? He can’t endorse Hillary Clinton without endorsing abortion; and, as he would like to see America’s national borders erased, he won’t support Donald Trump. So he bobbed and weaved and finally came up with this:

“The [American] people are sovereign.” ( https://www.yahoo.com/news/study-pray-vote-pope-tells-americans-ahead-elections-221531538.html )

Aside from the fact that only God is sovereign–and only God is infallible, for that matter; but we don’t want to rub it in–here we have the Pope glibly saying a thing he doesn’t believe for one cotton-pickin’ minute.

If “the people are sovereign,” how come we’re not allowed to enforce our nation’s borders?

If “the people are sovereign,” how come the Pope chimes in with the Climate Change crowd to wipe out our freedoms ’cause it’s gotta be done to Save the Planet?

If “the people are sovereign,” how come our immigration laws don’t matter?

If “the people are sovereign,” how come any little bunch of judges can order massive changes in our lives and there’s nothing we can do about it?

Pope Francis I is one of the world’s biggest offenders when it comes to trying to set up all-powerful bureaucracies to take control of every detail of our lives.

In trying to weasel out of one embarrassing question, he only stumbled face-first into another.

14 comments on “Pope: ‘The People Are Sovereign’

  1. This man and his inner circle of cardinals have been making a constant practice of the most asinine statements, doing the most outrageous things I have seen in years. It is jaw dropping to see this man decked out in gold and jewels and telling the crowd to put away materialism, the cardinals saying “I dont think jesus is coming back again, he was drinking wine at the time. he said it…” Blasphemers!

  2. When this pope was elected, he made a big show of walking out onto the papal balcony and saying “buona sera”, Italian for good evening. He appeared to be very humble and approachable, ‘a pope of the people’. Since then, he’s caused quite a stir and seems to have his nose in all sorts of things. One gets the impression that his position as pope is as much about politics as it is about faith and leading people to the Christ.

    Rev 16:13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; 14for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.

    Somehow, I think that the verses cited above may be germane to the situation.

  3. I totally agree with you, UnKnowable. If we can’t see the signs, we stand to be deceived to our peril.

    1. I’ve studied the Bible for most of my life and have believed it all my life. In the last six months or so it seems to have come alive before my eyes. There seem to be developments that point to fulfillment of prophecy happening all around us. Beyond that, every institution of human dominion seems to be falling apart before our very eyes.

      Damascus still exists but Aleppo is all but extinct. This is from Fox News today: “Aleppo has become an abandoned city, reduced to rubble. Buildings are demolished and shattered. Roads are bombed out. People’ faces are lifeless.”

      I don’t want to be a Chicken Little and no man knows that day or hour, but something very significant seems to be happening and it’s happening in real time, before our eyes. Perhaps the most amazing thing, from my point of view, is the effect it is having upon me. While I grieve the terrible things happening all around me I take great comfort in knowing that the deliverance of all mankind is near. That’s much more important than the concerns of any individual.

      I guess that all we can do is hold on tight and keep,our faith in the Creator.

  4. Precisely, and well said. I study those same Scriptures every day, and I, too see it all unfolding. I have been expecting Isaiah 17:1 for some time, and it is getting really close. Forces are aligning for the war of Har Megiddo as well. Can’t be long. Look up.

  5. For years I did not believe Israel had any role in prophecy from this point on, but I’ve changed my thinking with regard to this, If the restoration of Israel in 1948, and the capture of the Old City in 1967 are indeed significant then we’ve seen two unmistakeable events, the latter within my lifetime.

    With Russia and Syria teaming up, not to mention Turkey getting involved in Syria, all the players are in place for Gog of Magog, and things will probably move very fast once that happens. With all of the nonsense being taught, including from this pope, I am reminded of Rev 16:13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; 14 for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole [i]world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.

    My take is that all of the God dishonoring misinformation, actually telling people that they shouldn’t have families; all of it is the opposer making his last efforts at stifling the purpose God spoke, literally on the forest page of the Bible to fill the earth to God’s satisfaction, not man’s notions.

    1. Not that I don’t support Israel against the barbarians that surround her: but the state of Israel, as we know it, is a very secular state indeed. If it were in America it would be among the bluest of blue states, on a par with Massachusetts. So I can’t find in myself a lot of enthusiasm for secular Israel’s role in prophecy.

      I take Christ at His word: He will come as a thief in the night, when no one in the world expects it.

    2. If the state of Israel, as we know it, were in America, it would be among the bluest of the blue states, on a par with Massachusetts. It is an exceedingly secular state. For that reason, I can’t muster much enthusiasm for secular Israel’s role in prophecy.

      I take Christ at His word: He will come as a thief in the night, when the whole world least expects it.

  6. In Romans 9,10,11 you find a lot of the answers to the Israel question. Has God forsaken His people? Never. He has a covenant with Israel, and it will be fulfilled exactly and completely. Nothing and nobody can change that. The Jews are blinded UNTIL their day of awakening and restoration.

    1. It’s been a long time since they’ve been as blinded as they are today.

      I just think we’d better not get so wrapped up in Bible prophecy that we neglect our work, thinking it’s not going to matter because the Rapture’s coming any day now. There has really been too much of that in American Christianity for over 100 years.

      I take very seriously Our Lord’s injunction to “Occupy until I come.” Our large-scale failure to do this, over the past century or so, is largely responsible for the sorry state of our country today.

      If it turns out I’m working and Christ returns tomorrow, you won’t hear me complaining.

  7. I don’t think that we’re far apart on this. It’s not my intent to provoke controversy and whether I (personally) am right or wrong in my views is the very definition of trivial in comparison to the universal issues at stake. I stand ready to correct my views and will do so quickly if I see that I my understanding is inaccurate. Here’s an extremely condensed synopsis of my understanding.

    The promise to Abraham was literally “forever” and even the sinful and idolatrous behavior of the ancient nation of Israel cannot derail that promise. Quite reluctantly, I came to the conclusion that the restoration of Israel as a secular nation may well have a place in God’s purpose to fulfill His promise and vindicate His name. The valley of dry bones (Ezekiel 37), Jerusalem as a stumbling block to the nations (Ephesians 12), all seem to fit and, if so, this will culminate in Gog of Magog (Ezekiel 38) and the vindication of God’s name. This is not to reward Israel, it is for the sake of God’s name (Ezekiel 36:22-38). Thanks to Erline for the tie-in with Romans.

    That having been said; I could not agree more that getting too wrapped up in prophecy can have a very negative effect. I grew up immersed in such thinking and watched several older relatives reach the end of their lives in utter confusion that their personal “end” was coming before the “End” that they had been breathlessly awaiting all of their lives.

    I thank you Lee, for referring to the parable of the Minas. The timing is uncanny, because I am trying to help someone understand that very point. I grew up in a millennialist environment and I have had the sad experience of watching the mental health of long-time friends and some relatives, deteriorate as they struggled with unnecessary guilt related to making a living, saving for the future, etc. I can think of at least three people that have, essentially, “lost it” and given way to extreme behavior.

    This phenomena, which I call “Armageddonism” is a virulent mental illness that has the power to destroy lives. Jesus told us that only the Father knew the day and hour, so we shouldn’t pretend that we know something we cannot possibly know. I take great comfort in the hope provided in the scriptures and I am happy to see indications that prophecy is being fulfilled in our day, but I’m not holding my breath and I don’t recommend that anyone else does, either.

    1. Very well said, Unknowable.
      To this day I don’t know what was the eschatology of the church that I was raised in: I don’t think anybody there ever mentioned “End times.”
      Our Lord says He will be pleased if He finds us, when He comes, at our posts and carrying out our duties, as good and faithful servants ought to do.
      Heaven knows I’m not looking to start a fight over Bible prophecy. That would really make the Devil grin.

    2. By contrast, I was immersed in eschatology from early childhood, and no, I’m not exaggerating. It was not a good thing, although the adults in my life meant nothing more than to protect me from evil.

      It has taken me many years to back away from the emotional precipice caused by having been raised in a family that saw Armageddon behind every bush, but somehow I made it.

      From my perspective, the most important thing is that I’ve learned to balance my faith with the realities of life. While there may be some big things in store we still live in a world that challenges us daily. We live here because God has seen fit to do things on His timetable, not ours.

      I’ve learned to remind myself of this whenever I am tempted by Armageddonist thinking. I’ll take deliverance whenever it comes and I’m fine with sooner, rather than later, but it’s not my call. God is not unreasonable and doesn’t expect us to hold our breath while we anticipate the unfolding of His purposes.

      When the two tribes were sent into Babylonian exile they were given the following instructions in Jeremiah 29:

      4“Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, to all the exiles whom I have sent into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon, 5‘Build houses and live in them; and plant gardens and eat their produce. 6‘Take wives and become the fathers of sons and daughters, and take wives for your sons and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; and multiply there and do not decrease. 7‘Seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the LORD on its behalf; for in its welfare you will have welfare.’ 8“For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, ‘Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams which they dream. 9‘For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them,’ declares the LORD.
      10“For thus says the LORD, ‘When seventy years have been completed for Babylon, I will visit you and fulfill My good word to you, to bring you back to this place. 11‘For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the LORD, ‘plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.

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